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Monday,
May 5, 2003
Commentary:
Con
Frank
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DR.
SONDAK:
Our final speaker this session is Frank Meyskens who, if he isn't
going to argue for the limitations, he is at least going to bring
us back to earth. We are, after all, talking about melanoma. Frank?
DR. MEYSKENS:
I think I have been asked to address this because I have been
a translational scientist in melanoma for about 25 years.
I have used
the basic biological principles understood at that time to try
to develop a wide variety of clinical trials in melanoma, all
of which have been negative.
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This
is my statement here. Turning scientific discoveries, particularly
genetic abnormalities, into therapeutic targets.
For therapy?
I think very unlikely. Prevention? Pre-vertical phase in the primary?
Possibly.
How about
some alternative or non-genetic approaches? Vern has asked me
to comment a bit on the biology and particularly some studies
that we have been doing recently.
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Well,
how has my perspective been informed? Well, 25 years of basic
and clinical translational research, and really a love of pigment
cell biology.
I would like to reiterate what was said by the pro speaker, that
we have really neglected, to a significant extent, the biology
of the pigment cell until just very recently, although there are
a lot of people out there studying pigment cells, and we have
been swamped by this interested in immunology, not to say that
that is bad, but I think we have neglected the pigment cell biology
field enormously.
I have worked
closely with many other leaders in the field, the first two clinicians
having been very frustrated as well, and the second two being
basic scientists who remain more optimistic than I do.
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However,
I am not against genetics. There is a genetic part of my make
up. Actually, Dr. Trent and I, many years ago, were the first
to define chromosome 6q involvement.
An expansion
of that led to a publication in Cancer Research, and then a large
article in the New England Journal studying this phenomenon.
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I
will just take you back 10 years, and what we showed. This is
just one of the graphs, that if you had a structural abnormality
in chromosome 7, it was a bad, or an abnormality in chromosome
11, it was bad. So, we had some optimism that that might translate
for benefit at some future time.
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This
is a statement of why therapy based on genetic alterations is
likely to produce disappointing results.
I think the Gleevec experience was a very important one. However,
what it has also taught us is the rapid emergence of resistance,
in a tumor in which CML has no or few other evident genetic abnormalities.
One thing
that melanoma has is lots of genetic abnormalities. There are
multiple molecular pathways involved early in melanoma pathogenesis,
at least early from a clinical point of view, and also, the intrinsic
anti-apoptotic nature of the melanocyte. I think all three of
those together conspire.
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I
just remind you of the pathway. We tend to concentrate up here,
after the vertical growth phase, but the tumor really has a long
history.
By the time
we see it, however, it is usually just about ready to go into
the vertical growth phase.
As we know,
and have come to respect in the last few years, there is really
a very impressive change in the genetic make up of melanoma between
the radial and vertical growth phase, by which a large number
of genetic abnormalities are accrued.
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I
would submit to my colleagues who study this area that the nature
of why that occurs is a fundamental issue in genetics which has
been largely ignored.
We don't have any idea why this genetic change from the horizontal
to the vertical growth phase, transition in primary melanoma,
occurs, and it presages the metastatic phenotype.
Once you have
gone vertical and acquired all of these genetic abnormalities,
I think the game is up.
Multiple molecular
pathways become involved at that point. In fact, almost anywhere
you look, there is an abnormality in a molecular pathway, and
the anti-apoptinocyte becomes evident, which is probably a retention
of the normal properties of the melanocyte, which has just been
commented on earlier, but really just recognized in the last few
years.
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Where
do I think the genetics may play an important role in the management
of melanoma? Certainly I think in identification of individuals
at high risk, as commented elegantly by Dr. Tucker earlier, perhaps
in prevention.
We know that
early diagnosis is the key, and I will comment more and more on
this tomorrow in the chemoprevention symposium, as to what group
it might be useful to actually entertain prevention strategy.
If I were a betting man, I would bet on BRAF, because I think
it is a very important first step, immortalization step, and probably
would be very important in prevention and potentially treatment.
So, that is my one optimistic statement.
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How
about some alternative treatment strategies? How about anti-apoptotic
approaches?
Abnormal reactive
oxygen species regulation is an area we have been involved in,
and manipulation of melanin pathway, or melanin itself.
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Well,
I think there have been a couple of papers that have come out
recently that have looked at the presence of a number of apoptotic
proteins in melanocytes.
One thing
that is quite impressive is that all of the apoptotic proteins
are expressed abundantly except survivin, which becomes expressed
in the vertical growth phase and later.
So, it is
really not surprising, since melanocytes have to stick around
for the life of the animal and divide rarely, that they have to
be protected against cell death.
That is, the
phenotype of the untransformed cell is anti-apoptotic, and melanoma,
being fairly clever, doesn't get rid of that, but keeps that when
the cell becomes transformed.
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Well,
looking at a whole series of studies of reactive oxygen species
and chelators has led us to, surprisingly, end up looking at a
compound called disulfiram, which is used in alcohol aversion
therapy.
We have found
very, very potent effects of this particular compound.
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This
is just an XN5 analysis of a low dose of disulfiram, with a marked
appearance of apoptosis after treatment for 24 hours, suggesting
that melanoma might be sensitive to this class of agents, which
has not been widely explored in anti-melanoma therapy, and we
have just started a phase one trial of this compound.
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I
want to take you back about 15 years. Many of you may remember
the attempts of Wicke and others at Harvard to capitalize on the
unique pathway of the melanocyte, that pathway which generates
melanin.
They tried
to develop a number of analogs of dopa and related molecules.
They weren't successful, but I think it is a pathway that still
needs to be looked at.
I don't mean
manipulation of this pathway for therapeutic reasons but, if you
will, making better compounds that might go into melanin selectively,
since even amelanotic melanomas have a large amount of melanin
present, usually of the pheomelanin type. I think this whole field
has been badly neglected.
An area that
we have become quite involved in is using melanin itself, particularly
eumelanin, as a target, and I will mention some of those studies
tomorrow morning.
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What
we have shown, very briefly, is that by studying pure melanin
films, we have shown that melanin becomes progressively oxidized
through the pathogenetic process of cells becoming a melanoma.
What is generated
is a quinone amine which glops onto various types of cations and
other molecules, including a number of potent compounds which
we have synthesized.
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Our
strategy is this, actually, that because melanin in melanoma cells
becomes oxidized instead of reduced, as in the normal situation,
we are developing a chelator strategy that hooks onto various
cations, that then develops and goes through and transports directly
to the melanin, which is a sink, if you will, for chelation therapy.
It turns out
that this sink then further sets of a redox cyclic mechanism in
the presence of oxygen.
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This
is just one experiment that -- if you will forgive me the liberty
to show -- this is a particular chelator which my colleague, Pat
Farmer, has synthesized.
If we look
at the effect on melanoma and melanocytes, in melanocytes, there
is no effect of any of these manipulations.
If we take a low concentration of this copper chelating complex,
you get marked inhibition of proliferation.
In fact, if you put melanoma cells in the presence of 95 percent
air, they are very sensitive as well, which was a big surprise.
Then, when
you take a combination of this compound plus high levels of oxygen,
you have a marked inhibition compared to melanocytes. So, that
is another strategy which we are pursuing.
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Finally,
I think that genetics is unlikely to guide therapy, perhaps prevention,
and I will comment on that tomorrow during the tutorial.
I think the
melanin synthesis pathway and melanin itself may be important
therapeutic targets.
Third is,
apoptotic therapies may be worth considering, but I think we are
really going to have a hard time because the cell is just programmed
to be anti-apoptotic and melanoma has just made it more so.
I do think
that alterations of ROS in melanoma have not been capitalized
on, beyond the issue of melanin synthesis, which I don't have
time to comment on.
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