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Monday,
May 5, 2003
High-Throughput
Sequencing and Cancer: Applications to Melanoma
Paul
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Thanks.
I am going to give kind of a global perspective on some of the
problems of genomics in cancer, and try to tie that to melanoma.
I asked to go first, because I think I will try to set the stage
for the speakers that follow.
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Of
course, everybody is keenly aware of the potential of genomics
and the incredible opportunity that we have through the availability
now of the human genome sequence.
We have just
finished an arduous celebration of the completion of the genome
sequence and the 50th anniversary of this paper.
What is little known is what these guys were actually talking
about at the time this photograph was taken and, being very visionary
scientists, they were aware that we were going to identify tens
of thousands of genes with many exons each, and that it would
end up being a huge, huge haystack to look for needles within,
and we were looking at trouble down the road dealing with all
this complexity.
So, that is
what I want to talk about a little bit today.
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First,
in a very, very broad sense, what are the tasks of cancer genomics.
I think this can be put in very simple terms.
First, to
define the genes which are targets of mutations in cancer, to
understand the mechanisms of genomic instability that lead to
these mutations and to the development of greater genomic complexities
in cancer, and to understand completely their phenotypic consequences
that lead to the evolution of tumors, as we recognize them in
the clinic.
Finally, to
take this knowledge and translate it in some practical sense into
the clinical arena. So, that is what we have got to do and I am
going to talk about sort of how do you do this, and how are we
doing at it.
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So,
this is sort of the classic Vogelgram, where we have a very simple
concept of an orderly progression of cancer, with each step involving
a distinct gene. So, we go from a normal cell out to finally the
invasive cancer, which is the thing that actually kills people
and, in each stage, we have a gene. This is an oversimplification
and we recognize that, of course.
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First
of all, we know that the genome becomes quite chaotic at the end
of the process in almost all cancers.
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But
we don't know exactly when that occurs during the development
of cancer, but it may be relatively early.
Of course,
the bigger headache is that it isn't just a simple matter of having
a single gene at each stage of cancer progression, but there are
probably multiple genes, a menu that the cancer can choose from
as it progresses, and that is a big part of the problem.
Of course,
this linear model is also incorrect. We really should be looking
at a more branching, ramified kind of progression, where heterogeneity
develops within the tumor. I haven't depicted that well here,
but that is also obviously the case.
So, we really
have quite a challenge to identify all of these genes. We also
have a feeling that the number of genes involves increases as
we go through the progression so that, by the time you get to
the most advanced, clinically apparent tumor, there are probably
multiple genes that are probably abnormal. So, that adds to the
hassle here.
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Let
me talk a minute about how well the field has been doing in terms
of the sort of pace of discovery and the scope of clinical applications.
So, we can
find point mutations reasonably well now, but the pace of this
is still sort of low to medium, because the technology and the
costs of high throughput sequencing are still high, and very few
centers can actually do this sort of total genome mutation screening.
The clinical
application of information on point mutations is still really
quite limited. The pace of discovery of high penetrance hereditary
mutations in cancer is very, very low right now, and perhaps there
are a few left to discover, and its clinical applications are
also quite limited, although important and familiar to everybody
here.
Low penetrance
hereditary gene mutation, it is really quite a painfully slow
process, and I think anybody who has been involved in trying to
find these genes will agree with the pain part, and the clinical
applications of this are still very limited.
That is not
to say it is not incredibly important for the future, but it is
not something that we are really racing along a fast road of discovery.
Numeric changes, we are actually getting really quite good at
finding these with improvements in CGH technology, but the clinical
applications of these are really very limited. The only two I
know of are ERB-B2 in breast cancer, and N-MYC in neuroblastoma.
Otherwise, they are very, very limited.
Translocations
are still being discovered and even these sort of classic signals
of mutation in cancer have a fairly limited clinical application
in fairly rare cancers.
Epigenetic
changes, we are just really starting to dig into those in a good
way and, as far as I know, that has no direct clinical application.
So, I think
there is a huge challenge and a huge opportunity to take the burgeoning
genomic knowledge that is developing and bring it into the clinic
in meaningful ways, both for diagnostics and, of course, for therapeutics.
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On
the side of defining phenotypes, we are probably doing much better,
in the sense that using high throughput expression profiling technologies,
we actually can approach high throughput of the transcriptome
in cancer cells.
We are just
beginning to now enter the era where this is hitting the clinic
and, at the protein level, similar things are just now beginning
to happen.
So, this is
a little bit more encouraging.
One of the things I want to talk about today is, can we use this
more rapidly progressing area of cancer research to leverage our
efforts in mutation detection and discovery.
So, can we harness the relatively fast pace of expression analysis
to accelerate gene discovery and the translation of genomics to
the clinic.
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Here
is sort of the Vogelgram for melanoma, and completely devoid of
any representations of chains. So, our task, of course, is to
figure out which genes are involved at each of these steps. With
only 30,000 or 40,000 human genes, it really oughtn't to be that
difficult.
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Of
course, we know there is complexity. Actually, this is a CGH study
from a former student, Rodney Wiltshire, where he micro-dissected
cells from an individual patient's samples during the melanoma
progression when they were available.
He noted this
important fact, that we could see, even in radial growth melanoma,
numerous changes in copy number, indicating that complexity really
develops early in these tumors, and I think that gives us some
sense of the height of the mountain that has to be climbed.
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So,
in terms of genes that we already know about, you have heard about
many of them today and I won't read the list, but we have several
genes that we know are important as targets of mutational change
in melanoma, and the question is simply to find the rest.
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One
of the things we looked at early, as already summarized this morning,
was the question of when BRAF mutation occurs in melanoma progression.
This is a study that Pam Pollock, who is sitting in the back of
the room, did in a big hurry after the publication of the Davies
paper.
We were really
shocked when we found that actually the mutations were found when
we micro-dissected nevi and analyzed the secrets of the BRAF gene.
We were really shocked to find that BRAF mutations were very early
in melanoma progression.
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Although
this does cause you to stop and think about whether this will
really be a good target, since nevi are quiescent for so many
years and, indeed, in the vast number of nevi, they are permanently
benign as far as the patient is concerned, however, we also have
done some RNAi on BRAF recently, and see that it has a major effect
on melanoma cells in culture.
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So,
I am hopeful that this may still be a viable therapeutic target,
although I would hasten to remind everybody of the treatment failures
that have occurred in patients that have been treated with Gleevec.
That still means we need to do something more sophisticated than
treating any one target.
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Our
challenge is still to identify the additional hits that occur
during melanoma progression, and to understand what they do to
the tumor, to bring about progression, and how they tie into the
underlying melanocyte biology. That is really the challenge that
we have to overcome.
Even the genes
that we know about, such as CDKN2A, we really don't know when
they might be inactivated during melanoma progression.
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So,
there are two potential approaches to high throughput mutation
screens. One is sort of the whole genome, as Mike Stratton is
carrying out in his huge project, to take a relatively limited
number of samples and large, or essentially all genes and try
to discover their mutations.
An alternative
is to try to prioritize genes and look at a larger number of samples
on relatively fewer genes.
Until we can
achieve the $1,000 genome and actually sequence 100 melanoma genomes
and find all the abnormalities, we are stuck with this sort of
a dichotomy, and I want to take a few minutes and talk about that.
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So,
this is really the question, as to how well the total genome approach
will work, if we can only do a small number of samples.
Are there
many target genes we need to find? Are they dispersed widely throughout
the genome, or are there only a small number of targets? What
is the situation?
If you can only look at a small number of samples, and it is important
to find genes that are mutant in only a few percent, then you
can't expect to reliably find those, and it would be more important
to think of ways of prioritizing genes.
On the other
hand, if there are really only a few genes involved, then really,
if you sequence one or two melanoma genomes, you will get the
answer. Certainly, the BRAF case makes you think that this would
be a possibility for critical genes.
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We
haven't been able to address this question directly, but one of
the things that Pam Pollock has also done is to sequence all of
the known melanoma genes, plus some candidate genes that we have
identified through prioritization strategies in melanoma cell
lines and, as this data isn't completely compiled yet, I am not
going to talk about the specific genes.
This is more
what her data looks like at this point. So, there actually are
a fair number of genes that we can find the mutations in, at a
relatively low frequency.
That is a
huge challenge for the biologist. If you find a mutation in a
gene, even in a conserved domain in, let's say, three percent,
four percent, five percent of tumors, how do you follow up on
that?
Each of these is an overwhelming task for an individual laboratory,
and it is a challenge as to what to do with this information as
it comes along.
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So,
what are some approaches we can take for prioritizing for mutation
screening? One would be to fully define the transcriptome in melanocytes
throughout melanoma progression.
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You
are going to hear from the next speaker a good deal about this,
so I won't talk about it in detail.
From expression
profiling with microarrays where we are now accumulating significant
amounts of data, you can identify genes and pathways of interest,
you can achieve significant sample sizes.
However, the
current data is still sub-genomic and there is also the potential
to integrate new approaches for mutation detection with microarrays
such as nonsense mediated decay-based screening.
This is really
a quite powerful approach to define the transcriptome with the
limitation of arrays that it is always so far tending to be sub-genomic.
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That
is the reason that we, about a year ago, decided to supplement
this approach with a SAGE approach. SAGE is the technique illustrated
here, developed by Burt Vogelstein, to sequence representative
tags from transcripts in the genome.
Ashani Weeraratna in the lab has made three SAGE libraries from
melanoma tissue samples, and these will shortly be available to
the community on the SAGE data base through NCI.
We did this
because of the difficulty in getting exhaustive sequence data
from clinical specimens. So, she carried out a micro SAGE procedure
very elegantly and obtained libraries that are fairly comparable
to the best SAGE libraries that are in the database.
We think this
is a step toward a complete catalogue of the genes expressed in
melanoma, and that hopefully will be useful in identifying the
genes that are there.
Once you have
got the genes, are there things that you can do to find genes
of interest?
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I
will just mention my favorite example, which may not translate
to many other cancers, but this is in gastrointestinal stroma
tumor, where we were able to compare the gene expression pattern
between GISTs, which of course respond to Gleevec because they
contain kit mutations, and some non-GIST morphologically similar
tumors, and demonstrate that actually the kit gene itself was
the strongest discriminator for GIST in our entire study. This
is a result that we have even reproduced in an independent sample.
So, I think
you can find the gene that the tumors need to express relatively
easily that are characteristic of a particular cancer.
It is tricky
when you consider that some of these will be shared between different
cancers. So, the comparison group has to be considered very carefully,
but I think it is possible to prioritize genes on this basis for
a mutation analysis.
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Another
approach is to map regions of copy number change, and that is
also something that you are going to be hearing about in detail.
So, I won't talk about that, other than to say that the technologies
are rapidly becoming quite marvelous and we can, indeed, identify
regions of gain and loss in the genome with a high degree of precision
and a relatively high throughput, and that is a great way to prioritize
genes that are undergoing selection during tumorigenesis.
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In
addition, we need to think about pathways, as you have already
heard. So, BRAF is important.
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It
may or may not turn out to be drug-able, but tying it into pathways
will be an extraordinarily valuable way to find additional genes.
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In
addition, we need, of course, to examine familial predisposition,
which has been the great way to find genes in cancer genetics,
that turn out to define pathways and potential targets for intervention.
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I
will conclude with just a comment that the challenge remains to
translate the rapidly growing immense amount of genomic knowledge
and data from melanoma genetics into clinical applications, and
I think that is what we all hope to do. With that, I will thank
you.
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