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SLIDES
& TRANSCRIPTS
Tuesday,
June 18
Breakout
Group C Summary and Recomendations with Group Discussion: Improving
Therapy and Reducing Morbidity of Primary Therapy for Localized
Disease
Robert
S. Bell, MD
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BELL: Thank you, Murray. Peter Pisters will be here in a second
to join me up here. We very much appreciated this opportunity
to chair the local management breakout group.
We really had a remarkable group of participants. It included
radiation oncologists, medical oncologists, pediatric oncologists
and, very important, included Martine Van Glabbeke. I don't know
if she is still here. She provided a lot of the reality testing
that kept us on track and, echoing Jaap's comments about sending
back to North America, we are delighted to announce that Martine
has now been recruited to M. D. Anderson, will be living in Houston
from here on a tremendous addition to our ability to organize
clinical trials. So, thank you, Martine, for what you gave us.
We thought there were huge opportunities at this point for advancement
in the clinical management of soft tissue sarcomas. At the same
time, there are major risks if we simply continue with the status
quo.
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So,
we thought this was a very timely opportunity to move forward with
local management, starting off for this group with the consensus
around what we know about local management, what the group could
agree upon. First of all, for extremity and trunk tumors, local
control is probably not the major issue to be investigating at present.
Probably most of the group thought that our local control was at
least satisfactory. ertainly, there are issues related to the biology
of local failures, that failures in local management offer an opportunity
for biological investigation; but we shouldn't really base any clinical
trials related to extremity or truncal management on an issue of
local control, since rates currently show eight percent failure
-- less than 10 percent failure in most groups, and this is not
something that is likely to be improved upon. On the other hand,
in retroperitoneal sarcoma, local control is probably the major
issue, and we are going to talk about developments and trials in
extremity and in retroperitoneal sarcoma based on these assumptions.
In the extremity, probably the most important issue for clinical
trials is the issue of decreasing morbidity while maintaining current
local control rates. We thought this was something that was very
appropriate for clinical study at this point. We also thought it
was important to recognize the fact that the local control methodologies
that we use dramatically impact the availability of tissue for tumor
banking initiatives, and that we should address this, and that relates
back to what Sharon was discussing earlier.
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So, the three issues that we are going to bring to you for discussion
this morning relate to the issue of the biopsy and how that relates
to acquisition of tissue for molecular correlation studies; secondly,
extremity sarcoma multi-modality management and the issue of morbidity;
and then, finally, a proposal for a randomized control trial of
retroperitoneal sarcoma management with radiation and surgery that
Peter will discuss.
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So,
to look at the issue of how biopsy impacts on the acquisition of
tissue for molecular studies. We have to look at the issue of what
do we need tissue for in the performance of a biopsy. Of course,
the key issue for the patient is the diagnosis. That would include
the parameters that we have heard discussed today -- the subtype,
the grade, the molecular alterations evident in the tumor. If those
molecular alteration are currently part of the disease management
and diagnostic process.
I think a group like this also has to be interested in banking material
and processing material in a way that is going to advance science
for this group, since we recognize that target recognition and identification
is a critical part of what this group should be offering for the
future care of sarcoma patients.
There are a variety of things that we should be considering in multidisciplinary
centers: certainly, availability of viable tissue for cytogenetics,
tissue culture and xenograft models, for development of pre-clinical
testing with xenografts, to tissue culture, determination of cell
line characteristics. These are important things that we have to
consider in planning biopsy protocols. We certainly should all be
banking frozen material for later cDNA microarray analysis, SNIPS
for normal tissue, for blood, for the separation of blood into somatic
cell studies as well as for proteomic serum analysis. This is stuff
that we have to be doing. We shouldn't let the biopsy technique
get in the way of developing resources that are going to provide
information that changes therapy in the future.
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So,
if we look at biopsy tissue acquisition and how it impacts on tissue
and tumor banking, the first priority has to be diagnosis. If the
tumor is going to be resected without neoadjuvant therapy, then
diagnosis with core needle biopsy is certainly sufficient in most
cases, and tissue for corollary studies can be obtained at the time
of resection. In fact, having this enormous tumor in front of you,
with the ability to harvest various parts of that tumor in a defined
fashion, probably represents a real opportunity for molecular correlative
studies.
So, if the patient is going to have a tumor resected without neoadjuvant
treatment, needle biopsy for diagnosis is probably sufficient. Core
needle biopsy will suffice in most cases. However, with the increasing
numbers of patients who are being treated with neoadjuvant therapy
prior to surgery, we feel it is important to consider open biopsy
as the only method that may provide sufficient tissue for the kinds
of studies that we want to do in the future.
My sense is, multiple needle biopsies, first of all, may be more
injurious to the patient, and maybe more morbid to the patient,
and certainly there is nothing that suggests that multiple core
biopsies are going to be sufficient for doing, for example, cDNA
microarray studies with the necessary validation of the material
that is required prior to subjecting material to cDNA studies.
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think open biopsy has to be recognized as potentially necessary.
We thought that the best practice necessary recommendation -- All
multidisciplinary sarcoma groups should collect well-annotated tumor
material for later correlative studies. The well annotated aspect
would include a clinical informatics database that corresponds to
the tumor-banking database, at a minimum. In patients receiving
neoadjuvant therapy, open biopsy may be necessary to obtain sufficient
tumor for later banking purposes.
We thought that it should be recognized, in cases that were not
receiving neoadjuvant therapy, that we should be looking at the
resection sample as a research opportunity for studying tumor heterogeneity
and potentially some of the molecular mechanisms of tumorigenesis
that we have heard about from Marc Ladanyi, related to mechanisms
of instability and heterogeneity of expression within tumors.
Of course, the issue that we have heard several times during this
meeting -- there should be international collaboration in terms
of sharing, both the tumor bank resources but also the cDNA microarray
databases that are generated by various groups. We should have some
way of sharing this information and assuring that we are developing
similar information.
So, perhaps I could stop there. Murray, is that a reasonable thing
to do in terms of that best practice recommendation?
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